{"id":199,"date":"2012-01-05T05:38:17","date_gmt":"2012-01-05T13:38:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/facingthesing.wpengine.com\/?p=199"},"modified":"2014-12-06T14:46:15","modified_gmt":"2014-12-06T22:46:15","slug":"no-god-to-save-us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/intelligenceexplosion.com\/sk\/2012\/no-god-to-save-us\/","title":{"rendered":"\u017diaden Boh n\u00e1s nezachr\u00e1ni"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/lesswrong.com\/lw\/7dy\/a_rationalists_tale\/\"><span class=\"dropcap\">S<\/span>trati\u0165 vieru v Boha<\/a> bolo pre m\u0148a spo\u010diatku drsn\u00e9, lebo ma u\u010dili, \u017ee bez Boha by neexistovali \u017eiadne hodnoty, \u017eiaden zmysel, \u017eiadna rados\u0165, \u017eiadna l\u00e1ska \u2013 iba at\u00f3my odr\u00e1\u017eaj\u00face sa od seba.<\/p>\n<p>Nesk\u00f4r som v\u0161etky tieto veci dostal sp\u00e4\u0165. <a href=\"http:\/\/lesswrong.com\/lw\/on\/reductionism\/\">V\u0161etko sa sklad\u00e1 z at\u00f3mov<\/a>, ale to neznamen\u00e1, \u017ee\u00a0existuj\u00fa \u201eiba\u201c at\u00f3my. Fakt, \u017ee hodnoty, zmysel, rados\u0165 a l\u00e1ska sa skladaj\u00fa z at\u00f3mov, je t\u00fdm, \u010do ich umiest\u0148uje do skuto\u010dn\u00e9ho sveta. Ke\u010f sa vedcom podar\u00ed <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Unweaving-Rainbow-Science-Delusion-Appetite\/dp\/0618056734\/\">rozobra\u0165 d\u00fahu<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/lesswrong.com\/lw\/oo\/explaining_vs_explaining_away\/\">d\u00faha je st\u00e1le tam<\/a>, a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=cRmbwczTC6E\">e\u0161te kraj\u0161ia so svojimi podrobnos\u0165ami<\/a>. Nau\u010dil som sa <a href=\"http:\/\/lesswrong.com\/lw\/or\/joy_in_the_merely_real\/\">ma\u0165 rados\u0165 z \u201ep\u00fahej\u201c skuto\u010dnosti<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Jedna vec, ktor\u00fa so nasp\u00e4\u0165 <em>nedostal<\/em>, bolo bezpe\u010die \u017eivota vo svete, ktor\u00e9mu vl\u00e1dne v\u0161emocn\u00e1 dobrotiv\u00e1 bytos\u0165.<\/p>\n<p>Samozrejme som nikdy neveril tomu, \u017ee by Boh optimalizuje <em>v\u0161etko<\/em> a spln\u00ed mi v\u0161etky moje priania. Tak\u00e1 te\u00f3ria sa <a href=\"http:\/\/lesswrong.com\/lw\/8py\/beyond_the_reach_of_god_abridged_for_spoken_word\/\">pr\u00edli\u0161 \u013eahko falzifikuje<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Ale zrejme existuje nejak\u00e1 <em>hranica hr\u00f4zy<\/em>, dos\u0165 pr\u00ed\u0161ern\u00e1 na to, aby Boh zasiahol&#8230; \u017diaden miluj\u00faci rodi\u010d, aj ke\u010f chce, aby jeho die\u0165a vyr\u00e1stlo ako siln\u00e9 a samostatn\u00e9, by nedovolil, aby jeho bato\u013ea zrazilo auto.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Teraz si v\u0161ak polo\u017eme <a href=\"http:\/\/lesswrong.com\/lw\/8py\/beyond_the_reach_of_god_abridged_for_spoken_word\/\">in\u00fa ot\u00e1zku<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Za tak\u00fdch a tak\u00fdch po\u010diato\u010dn\u00fdch podmienok, za tak\u00fdch a tak\u00fdch pravidiel, ak\u00fd by bol matematick\u00fd v\u00fdsledok?<\/p>\n<p>Odpove\u010f na t\u00fato ot\u00e1zku nem\u00f4\u017ee zmeni\u0165 ani Boh.<\/p>\n<p>Ako vyzer\u00e1 svet v tomto imagin\u00e1rnom svete, kde ka\u017ed\u00fd krok z\u00e1vis\u00ed iba od jeho najbli\u017e\u0161ieho predchodcu? Kde sa veci stan\u00fa alebo nestan\u00fa iba pod\u013ea matematick\u00fdch pravidiel? A kde tieto pravidl\u00e1 nepopisuj\u00fa Boha dozeraj\u00faceho na ka\u017ed\u00fd stav? Ako to vyzer\u00e1 vo svete \u010distej matematiky, <em>mimo dosah Boha<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p>Tak\u00fd svet by nebol f\u00e9rov\u00fd&#8230; Zlo\u017eit\u00fd \u017eivot by sa mohol, ale nemusel vyvin\u00fa\u0165. Tento \u017eivot by mohol, ale nemusel z\u00edska\u0165 vedomie&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Keby sa vyvinulo nie\u010do ako \u013eudia, trpeli by chorobami \u2013 ktor\u00e9 by tam neboli preto, aby ich nau\u010dili nejak\u00fa lekciu, ale iba preto, \u017ee v\u00edrusy sa tam vyvinuli tie\u017e. Keby \u013eudia v tom svete boli \u0161\u0165astn\u00ed alebo ne\u0161\u0165astn\u00ed, nemuselo by to ma\u0165 ni\u010d spolo\u010dn\u00e9 s dobr\u00fdmi alebo zl\u00fdmi vo\u013ebami, ktor\u00e9 urobili. Ni\u010d spolo\u010dn\u00e9 so slobodnou v\u00f4\u013eou alebo nau\u010den\u00edm sa lekcie. V tomto fikt\u00edvnom svete, D\u017eingis Ch\u00e1n m\u00f4\u017ee povra\u017edi\u0165 mili\u00f3ny \u013eud\u00ed, smia\u0165 sa a by\u0165 bohat\u00fd, nikto ho nikdy nepotrest\u00e1, a svoj \u017eivot pre\u017eije <em>omnoho<\/em> \u0161\u0165astnej\u0161ie ako priemer. Kto by tomu zabr\u00e1nil?<\/p>\n<p>A ak bude Ch\u00e1n mu\u010di\u0165 \u013eud\u00ed na smr\u0165, pre svoje pobavenie? M\u00f4\u017eu vola\u0165 o pomoc, m\u00f4\u017eu si predstavova\u0165 Boha. [Ale] v tomto syst\u00e9me nie je \u017eiaden Boh. Obete bud\u00fa zachr\u00e1nen\u00e9 iba vtedy, ak v spr\u00e1vnej premennej bude hodnota 0 alebo 1. A nie je pravdepodobn\u00e9, \u017ee by sa niekto vzoprel Ch\u00e1novi; keby to urobili, niekto by ich sekol me\u010dom, ten me\u010d by roztrhal ich org\u00e1ny a oni by zomreli, a t\u00fdm by to skon\u010dilo.<\/p>\n<p>Tak\u017ee obete umieraj\u00fa, kri\u010dia, a nikto im nepom\u00f4\u017ee&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Za\u010d\u00edna v\u00e1m tento svet znie\u0165 povedome?<\/p>\n<p>Mohlo by to naozaj by\u0165 tak, \u017ee bytosti s vedom\u00edm zomierali, definit\u00edvne, mili\u00f3ny rokov&#8230; bez du\u0161e a bez posmrtn\u00e9ho \u017eivota&#8230; a bez ak\u00e9hoko\u013evek ve\u013ek\u00e9ho pl\u00e1nu Pr\u00edrody? Nie aby sme sa nau\u010dili o zmysle \u017eivota. Ani nie, aby sme sa nau\u010dili hlbok\u00fa lekciu o tom, \u010do je nemo\u017en\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Jednoducho m\u0155tvi. Jednoducho len tak.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Toto je v skuto\u010dnosti svet, v ktorom \u017eijeme: svet matematiky a fyziky.<\/p>\n<p>Kedysi som veril, \u017ee vyhynutie \u013eudstva nie je dovolen\u00e9, \u017ee Boh by takej veci zabr\u00e1nil. In\u00ed m\u00f4\u017eu veri\u0165, \u017ee vyhynutie \u013eudstva nie je dovolen\u00e9 kv\u00f4li \u201e<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Nonzero-Logic-Destiny-Robert-Wright\/dp\/0679758941\/\">hr\u00e1m s kladn\u00fdm s\u00fa\u010dtom<\/a>\u201c alebo \u201edemokracii\u201c alebo \u201etechnol\u00f3gii\u201c. Ale vo svete matematiky a fyziky vyhynutie \u013eudstva <em>je<\/em> dovolen\u00e9, \u010di sa od tejto my\u0161lienky reflexne <a href=\"http:\/\/facingthesing.wpengine.com\/sk\/2011\/dont-flinch-away\/\">odvr\u00e1time<\/a> alebo nie.<\/p>\n<p>Ke\u010f sme si toto povedali, <em>m\u00f4\u017eeme<\/em> urobi\u0165 svet o \u010dosi bezpe\u010dnej\u0161\u00edm, <em>ak<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/cs.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Efekt_p%C5%99ihl%C3%AD%C5%BEej%C3%ADc%C3%ADho\">sa<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nypost.com\/p\/news\/local\/queens\/passers_by_let_good_sam_die_5SGkf5XDP5ooudVuEd8fbI\">rozhodneme<\/a> spr\u00e1vne pripravi\u0165:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Nem\u00f4\u017eeme zmeni\u0165 fyziku. M\u00f4\u017eeme v\u0161ak postavi\u0165 ochrann\u00e9 z\u00e1bradlia a naspodok da\u0165 nejak\u00e9 vypch\u00e1vky.<\/p>\n<p>Jedn\u00e9ho d\u0148a, mo\u017eno, bud\u00fa mysle chr\u00e1nen\u00e9. Deti si bud\u00fa m\u00f4c\u0165 pop\u00e1li\u0165 prst alebo strati\u0165 hra\u010dku, ale nikdy ich nezrazia aut\u00e1&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>[Len\u017ee] my sa tam mus\u00edme dosta\u0165 vych\u00e1dzaj\u00fac z <em>tohto<\/em> sveta&#8230; sveta s tvrd\u00fdm bet\u00f3nom a\u00a0bez\u00a0vypch\u00e1vok. Sveta, ktor\u00e9ho \u00falohy nie s\u00fa primeran\u00e9 va\u0161im schopnostiam, a za zlyhanie [v\u00a0t\u00fdchto \u00faloh\u00e1ch] m\u00f4\u017eete zomrie\u0165.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\u010casto sme <a href=\"http:\/\/facingthesing.wpengine.com\/sk\/2011\/the-crazy-robots-rebellion\/\">slab\u00ed<\/a> a <a href=\"http:\/\/facingthesing.wpengine.com\/sk\/2011\/plenty-of-room-above-us\/\">hl\u00fapi<\/a>, ale mus\u00edme to <em>sk\u00fasi\u0165<\/em>, preto\u017ee <a href=\"http:\/\/lesswrong.com\/lw\/11m\/atheism_untheism_antitheism\">nie<\/a>  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Arguing-about-Gods-Graham-Oppy\/dp\/0521122643\/\">je<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Logic-Theism-Arguments-Against-Beliefs\/dp\/0521108667\/\">\u017eiaden<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paul-almond.com\/OnReality.pdf\">boh<\/a>, ktor\u00fd by n\u00e1s zachr\u00e1nil. Skuto\u010dne pr\u00ed\u0161ern\u00e9 v\u00fdsledky m\u00f4\u017eu by\u0165 nemyslite\u013en\u00e9 pre \u013eud\u00ed, nie s\u00fa v\u0161ak nemyslite\u013en\u00e9 pre fyziku.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>trati\u0165 vieru v Boha bolo pre m\u0148a spo\u010diatku drsn\u00e9, lebo ma u\u010dili, \u017ee bez Boha by neexistovali \u017eiadne hodnoty, \u017eiaden zmysel, \u017eiadna rados\u0165, \u017eiadna l\u00e1ska \u2013 iba at\u00f3my odr\u00e1\u017eaj\u00face sa od seba. Nesk\u00f4r som v\u0161etky tieto veci dostal sp\u00e4\u0165. 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